“Actually, a lot of change is small and incremental… it is about what's the next step.”

– Adrian Reynolds

Change is never just structural – it is spiritual, relational and often costly. So how can we help church congregations change to become more mission-focused, even when that process feels difficult?

Join Jason Roach for this conversation with Linda Allcock, speaker, lecturer and co-leader of The Globe Church, and Adrian Reynolds, Associate National Director of The Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches (FIEC).

Together they explore how the gospel itself gives Christians a framework for change, and how we can overcome common areas of resistance to change in church life.

With stories of church planting, homeless ministry, parent and toddler groups, open-air evangelism and everyday conversations, Linda and Adrian highlight the power of small steps, patient listening and courageously setting an example.

This episode encourages leaders and churches to see change not as a threat, but as a shared journey of love, humility and hope – making space for more people to encounter Jesus.